At Pragma Cannes 2025, Kartik Talwar and Vitalik Buterin discuss evolving trends in the Ethereum and broader crypto ecosystem. They highlight regional differences in community interests—privacy in Prague, AI in Taipei, and global diversity at Cannes. The conversation covers the shift from DeFi innovation to integration, the resurgence of previously failed ideas like micropayments and tokenized stocks, and the challenge of moving from hype to actual product delivery.
They debate the intersection of AI and crypto, noting limited real-world success so far. The importance of privacy, decentralization, and composability is emphasized, especially as institutions like Robinhood launch their own chains and stablecoins. They advocate for L1 asset issuance, improved L1-L2 interoperability, and formal verification for security. The session concludes with reflections on fostering a builder culture, balancing mainstream adoption with frontier innovation, and the need for practical, user-centric solutions in Ethereum’s future.
00:00 Introduction
00:42 Icebreakers & Robinhood Launch Discussion
01:48 Diversity & Culture in Ethereum Events
03:22 Pragma’s Audience & Event Structure
05:18 Regional Trends: AI, Privacy, DeFi
06:47 DeFi: Integration vs. Innovation
08:21 The Value of Experimentation in DeFi
09:42 Revisiting Old Ideas: Micropayments, Tokenized Stocks
11:49 Privacy as Feature, Not Application
12:35 Missed Opportunities: VPNs, Bandwidth Sharing
13:14 Surprising Successes & User vs. Developer Perspectives
14:18 Ethereum’s Subcultures & Community Dynamics
16:54 Builder Culture vs. Hype Cycle
18:52 Vision for ETH Pragma 2030
20:04 Lessons from Internet History & Event Curation
22:25 Economic Impact & Hackathon Metrics
23:18 Most Impactful Ethereum Applications
24:58 Distributed Compute & Idle Resources
25:18 AI & Crypto: Current State and Challenges
28:22 AI Agents, Wallet Use Cases, and Future Potential
30:14 Decentralization: Properties vs. Technology
32:26 User Attitudes Toward Privacy & Institutional Perspectives
34:40 Governments, Privacy, and Cashless Societies
36:31 Android, Linux, and Mass Adoption Lessons
38:33 Default Choices, User Education, and Crypto Values
40:26 Institutional Chains, Fragmentation, and L1/L2 Dynamics
43:02 Technical Priorities: L1-L2 Interoperability & Security
46:07 Vision for Ethereum Culture in 2027
47:37 Conclusion
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🇫🇷 *Pragma Cannes*
Pragma Cannes 2025 was held on July 3rd at the Carlton Cannes in Cannes, France and was an in-person summit for builders and leaders in the web3 ecosystem. Watch the full Pragma Cannes YouTube Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXzKMXK2aHh6jZYPY5-YIBzvMtUT3ajjI
ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past.
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